Bred ([info]outsideloki) wrote,
@ 2005-05-22 03:01:00
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I agree, it was heaps better than the last two. But the main reason for that is that it had a point to it. The problem with Episode I is that the things that happen dont matter, at least in terms of the movie. It's like "Ooh, aah, a countries being taxed" and "Oh no, a single slave on a planet full of them is being freed". Sure you know they're going to be important, but in terms of the movie, they're basically non-events.

Episode II the greatest problem was the love. Be it because of the dialogue or just a lack of chemistry between Natalie and Hayden, all of the love scenes turned out cheesy and stunted. Also, there was no growth. There was no dealing with the issues. Anakin killed sand people and he got hugged. Padme couldnt marry a jedi despite her bodice, and then she can. They seem to have resolved this important internal conflicts without bothering to tell the audience.

Now, Episode III you see the conflicts, and you see the characters deal with them. Anakin feels annoyed, and he talks to Obi-Wan, who pacifies him. Padme feels confused, so she does what a confused person would do. The love dialogue is still rubbish, so it's fortunate that there isnt much of it, but the one scene with the two of them that isnt all "You're fucking awesome" *swoon* finally showed what the two actors (three counting ewan) are capable of, and it was powerful.

Speaking of powerful, there were lots of powerful scenes. Order 66; Oh. My God. The music capped it so perfectly, sad and noble and bitter. The younglings. Vader getting named, and his torment in the confrontation between mace windu and palpatine. Yoda realising he had failed. Darth Vader's first breath through the mask. And the most powerful by far in my opinion, not suprisingly, Obi-Wans final rant. "You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the sith, not become one! You were my brother! I loved you." Goddamn that boy can act. I want to have his sexy scottish babies.

The bitter irony of Anakins dream, of course, is worth noting. He would not have turned were it not for the dream, and she would not have died if he hadnt turned. But more than that, I think Palpatine might have planted the dreams in him. He had shown interest in him from the very start, ("We will watch your career with great interest"), he knew about the dreams, and he knew exactly what buttons on anakin to press.

The one thing that really stands out as not fitting, I think, is Padme at the end saying "there is still good in him". This is, of course, nothing but a reference to Return of the Jedi, which is cool (just like having the Tantive IV. Tell you what, my Lego is made even cooler by this movie, if thats even possible. THEY HAD THE SAME HALLS! You see the exact hall that Vader comes through!) but the thing is, she shouldnt have thought that. She died because she gave up. She thought all hope was lost for the man she loved, and she wouldnt have thought this, or given up and died, if she thought there was still good in him. Especially considering she would have been the one most likely to be able to bring that good in him out.

The space battle was good. All the lightsabre duels were unbelievably good. I love Ewans cockiness when he drops down to fight greivous. In the Cartoon series, Dooku tells Greivous that he needs to have fear, indimidation and suprise when fighting jedi, or he will lose, and he has none of those things when Ewan drops down and lays the hurt into him.

It's three in the morning, and I need to sleep. But those are my thoughts on star wars. One of the best, for sure. Repeated viewings nessesary to detirmine whether it will win out over Jedi and Empire.




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[info]manda_babylon
2005-05-21 10:50 pm UTC (link)
I was on the verge of tears when Obi-Wan yells at Anakin. It moved me.

Then, we spent the entire evening yelling "YOU WERE MY BROTHER! I LOVED YOU!" at each other.

I wholeheartedly believe that Palpatine sent the dreams. I'm glad I'm not the only one who drew this conclusion. Hooray.

I loved this movie the best out of all of the new ones, and... Well, I won't compare it to the original, and just leave it at that.

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[info]tigerczew
2005-05-22 10:14 am UTC (link)
one word.... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE....

ok more then just 1.


there was so much emotion im still processing it... 3 days later!... i was in aw of the amount of hatred he managed to get in there. and the youngling..... that was so sad... so tragic. and yoda's face when they were dying... could have been done better... gut still you SOOOO got the point of how much pain he was really in.



the dialog needed work.. but it wasn't nearly as bad as the first 2. only 2 really corny parts in the whole movie. Sam jackson could have done a better death sceen.... he was lacking.. never thought he should be a jedi anyway... bad casting on that one George... (not saying he's a bad actore, just don't think he was right for mace windu)


overall... good story, fair presentation, could have been better, but non the less i was blown away still. (to much CGI... not enough REALness)

and yes Ewan.. is god... if that wasn't a PERFECT casting for that role i'll eat my laptop!

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[info]youjen
2005-05-23 07:38 pm UTC (link)
I already said alot on my rant (and alot of what you said I felt too).

Ewan and Anakin's ending scene is *incredibly* powerful (that's where I started crying for the second time...), and I will fight you to have the man's babies. :P

I still hold with the acting was a bit poor (mayhaps because, as one article said, Lucas still cannot grasp writing a love scene

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Ewan's baby
[info]tigerczew
2005-05-24 03:06 am UTC (link)
if anyone is gonna have Ewan's baby it's gonna be me... I'll take you BOTH on for that honor lol.


lucas has never been good with dialog... thats what kills it if anything. Hayden did an awsoem job in life as a house so i know hes a good actor.. and natalie has done great movies herself.. only conclusion is bad script lol.


i havnt cried just yet... but i came close at my second viewing. give me another 2 or 3 showing and I'll ball like a baby.

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Re: Ewan's baby
[info]outsideloki
2005-05-24 04:31 am UTC (link)
Fine, I'll settle for Natalie :(

*secretly plots to have Ewan's babies behind their backs*

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